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| CaH4e3:
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| PedroPM94:
--- Цитата: BSV от 23 Декабрь 2018, 18:58:20 ---PedroPM94, Try to run GPU-Z utility while running emulation in Demul and go to Sensors tab. It may help to increase performance in some situations. --- Конец цитаты --- What do i do once i am on that tab? :) Добавлено позже: This is what appears when i use Demul and open GPU-Z in the same tab you said: It is indeed some FPS faster, but it´s still not as fast as it was before. :( Добавлено позже: And this is when i run a game, for example, in this case, Le Mans 24 Hours, which is also one of the games that ran at Full FPS, before, for some reason, since last time i used Demul, my FPS got cut in half: The temperatures are all normal. The limit is 97, and it´s not even close to that. I do find the GPU load to be a bit low for some reason. Any idea on what might be the culprit? I know my specs are average at best, but this used to run well on my first run on the emu, so the specs are enough for this sets of games and the bios that i´m running at least, something else must be happening here. Any help is welcome. :) UPDATE: I compared the values to what they reach on the other emulators. I played a bit of WWE Day Of Reckoning 2 on the Dolphin Emulator. I run it Full Screen, 2x Resolutions and it reaches 50 FPS (maximum for a PAL release), and the GPU load is constant at 55/60 %. I´m thinking this is the culprit, Demul, for some reason, is barely using my GPU but why? I have set the program to use the NVIDIA GPU on the Control Panel, i even created a profile for the application to make sure it runs on that. Changing battery settings to High Performance, PCI Express settings to Off make no difference at all. I´m losing hope here. :( |
| ~Scorpion-:
--- Цитата: PedroPM94 от 23 Декабрь 2018, 18:33:44 ---GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M --- Конец цитаты --- Man, your videocard is too low. For good playing on this Emulator with updated videoplugin you need more powerful Videocard, becouse emulator use many resourses from videocard. You need to update your laptop. :) |
| Ogr:
~Scorpion-, вообще то на скрине загрузка ГП - жалкие 16%. ;) |
| PedroPM94:
--- Цитата: ~Scorpion- от 23 Декабрь 2018, 20:51:09 ---Man, your videocard is too low. For good playing on this Emulator with updated videoplugin you need more powerful Videocard, becouse emulator use many resourses from videocard. You need to update your laptop. :) --- Конец цитаты --- I understand it´s average at best but this ran well on my first days running Demul some weeks ago, before i stopped gaming due to exams in College, at least with the games i played. So while i know i need a upgrade down the road, and will get one when i have the money to buy a new rig, it did not suddenly lost power in a matter of weeks to go from running games i tested Demul with at Max FPS to half of that now. :( I think the low GPU usage is the culprit, specially when compared to the other Emulators, but nothing i do seems to increase it and i´m not exactly a tech expert to know what to do next, whatever i think could solve it, has failed. In the meantime i´m using Redream, which runs totally fine on my rig, but i would love to get back the performance i had just some weeks ago on Demul because it plays some games that Redream does not. |
| ~Scorpion-:
--- Цитата: PedroPM94 от 23 Декабрь 2018, 20:57:10 ---I think the low GPU usage is the culprit, specially when compared to the other Emulators, but nothing i do seems to increase it. --- Конец цитаты --- There is more matter architecture of your Card then fully usage. |
| PedroPM94:
--- Цитата: ~Scorpion- от 23 Декабрь 2018, 21:04:56 ---There is more matter architecture of your Card then fully usage. --- Конец цитаты --- I know, but how do you explain that in my first days running the emu, it ran at full speed on the games i tried, and now, after a week of not using it, it runs at half of the speed? The performance in all the other things are the same, just Demul is affected. |
| Ogr:
~Scorpion-, не неси бред. демуль отлично работает и на гф560 - на 2 поколения архитектурой старше. ;) |
| ~Scorpion-:
--- Цитата: PedroPM94 от 23 Декабрь 2018, 21:07:43 ---I know, but how do you explain that in my first days running the emu, it ran at full speed on the games i tried, and now, after a week of not using it, it runs at half of the speed? The performance in all the other things are the same, just Demul is affected. --- Конец цитаты --- Honestly when I run Demul on PC with same videocard as yours, I always got the troubles, no fullspeed. It started works normal only whith GTX1060. Perhaps you choosed old videoplugin and change scaling maybe. :neznayu: Добавлено позже: --- Цитата: Ogr от 23 Декабрь 2018, 21:10:20 ---~Scorpion-, не неси бред. демуль отлично работает и на гф560 - на 2 поколения архитектурой старше. ;) --- Конец цитаты --- А ты много игр до конца прошел здесь? <_< Некоторые сначала не тормозят вообще, а потом.... |
| Ogr:
PedroPM94, посмотри при помощи HWiNFO64, не снижены и стабильны ли частоты у ЦП во время игры. transfer: look with the help of HWiNFO64, if the frequencies of the CPU are not reduced and stable during the game. |
| PedroPM94:
--- Цитата: ~Scorpion- от 23 Декабрь 2018, 21:19:59 ---Honestly when I run Demul on PC with same videocard as yours, I always got the troubles, no fullspeed. It started works normal only whith GTX1060. Perhaps you choosed old videoplugin and change scaling maybe. :neznayu: Добавлено позже:А ты много игр до конца прошел здесь? <_< Некоторые сначала не тормозят вообще, а потом.... --- Конец цитаты --- I´ve tried both plugins, with scaling and no scaling, there´s no difference, the FPS is always the same no matter which resolution i choose. If Demul had always worked like this, i would totally accept there would be nothing i could do to make it work again on my Laptop. But it used to work fine, at least on the games i tried, just some weeks ago. My laptop did not suddenly became worse or broken in that time period, specially when every other app works well. Two weeks ago, i ran the entire NBA series, Le Mans, NHL series at full speed with 2x Resolution. Now i can´t run any of those games at full speed no matter the resolution i use, i run them at half speed. And like Ogr mentioned, it works well on a GPU that has older architecture. Добавлено позже: --- Цитата: Ogr от 23 Декабрь 2018, 21:25:23 ---PedroPM94, посмотри при помощи HWiNFO64, не снижены и стабильны ли частоты у ЦП во время игры. transfer: look with the help of HWiNFO64, if the frequencies of the CPU are not reduced and stable during the game. --- Конец цитаты --- I´ll check that out, give me just some minutes! :) |
| Ogr:
--- Цитата: ~Scorpion- от 23 Декабрь 2018, 21:19:59 --- ты много игр до конца прошел здесь? Некоторые сначала не тормозят вообще, а потом.... --- Конец цитаты --- ...а потом уменьшаешь слои сортировки. :lol: и смотрим на этот скрин: https://i.imgur.com/zRYx2qW.png пытаясь задать вопрос "ты много биосов до конца прошел здесь?". |
| ~Scorpion-:
PedroPM94, It is better to wait, maybe devs can give you real answer? :) |
| PedroPM94:
--- Цитата: Ogr от 23 Декабрь 2018, 21:30:14 ---...а потом уменьшаешь слои сортировки. :lol: и смотрим на этот скрин: https://i.imgur.com/zRYx2qW.png пытаясь задать вопрос "ты много биосов до конца прошел здесь?". --- Конец цитаты --- This is what appears when i run that. I get no info whatsoever on the GPU part and for some reason only two cores are on from a total of 4. Добавлено позже: --- Цитата: ~Scorpion- от 23 Декабрь 2018, 21:33:21 ---PedroPM94, It is better to wait, maybe devs can give you real answer? :) --- Конец цитаты --- That is what i´m hoping for as well buddy. :) |
| Ogr:
--- Цитата: PedroPM94 от 23 Декабрь 2018, 21:42:25 ---This is what appears when i run that. --- Конец цитаты --- во время игры частота ЦП стабильна, или изменяется? Google Translate: during the game, is the CPU frequency stable or changing? |
| PedroPM94:
--- Цитата: Ogr от 23 Декабрь 2018, 22:08:46 ---во время игры частота ЦП стабильна, или изменяется? Google Translate: during the game, is the CPU frequency stable or changing? --- Конец цитаты --- Where do i check that? Is the CPU frequency those green bars? If yes, then they are constantly as in the picture. Also, i do have 4 cores, just like you, but for some reason only two are appearing on HWiNFO. |
| Ogr:
--- Цитата: PedroPM94 от 23 Декабрь 2018, 22:11:20 ---Is the CPU frequency those green bars? --- Конец цитаты --- yes |
| PedroPM94:
--- Цитата: Ogr от 23 Декабрь 2018, 22:18:46 ---yes --- Конец цитаты --- So, like i said, they are pretty stable around the level they are in the picture i showed. ;) |
| MetalliC:
--- Цитата: PedroPM94 от 23 Декабрь 2018, 22:11:20 ---Also, i do have 4 cores, just like you, but for some reason only two are appearing on HWiNFO. --- Конец цитаты --- no, i5-4200U have only 2 cores, but 4 threads i.e. it kind of pretends to be 4core anyway, I think such CPU should be enough for Demul. make sure there is no other software produce significant CPU load - exit from Demul, run Task Manager and check CPU load bars there, they should be close to zero. |
| PedroPM94:
--- Цитата: MetalliC от 23 Декабрь 2018, 22:27:42 ---no, i5-4200U have only 2 cores, but 4 threads i.e. it kind of pretends to be 4core anyway, I think such CPU should be enough for Demul. make sure there is no other software produce significant CPU load - exit from Demul, run Task Manager and check CPU load bars there, they should be close to zero. --- Конец цитаты --- These are the results. Neither the CPU or the GPU is under too massive of loads, which is odd. Any tip? I have already tried a couple of things i mentioned above. This is running Demul with no other background task that takes away too much from the CPU. I have no idea what the values were, when Demul worked at Full Speed just two weeks ago, because since it was working good, i did not bother checking, but i imagine they had to be higher than this. The program is barely using my GPU, and my CPU is far from being abused by it as well. Any tip? Also, when nothing is being used, the CPU load is indeed close to zero as you mention. |
| MetalliC:
I see, no good ideas then... |
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